Comments on: Some Thoughts on the Browns’ 13-6 Win Over the Steelers http://dawgpounddaily.com/2009/12/14/some-thoughts-on-the-browns-13-6-win-over-the-steelers/ A Cleveland Browns Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:44:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: gobucks1 http://dawgpounddaily.com/2009/12/14/some-thoughts-on-the-browns-13-6-win-over-the-steelers/comment-page-1/#comment-1223 gobucks1 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:04:42 +0000 http://dawgpounddaily.com/?p=1299#comment-1223 Big News on ESPN today....Mike Holmgren is in Cleveland having a meeting with Lerner. Apparently he was met with him yesterday as well. He brought his agent along!!!!Rumor is that he is meeting with them about being the "czar"/GM!!!!! Hopefully we will hear something in the next day or two. This could be a HUGE step in the right direction toward turning this team around! Big News on ESPN today….Mike Holmgren is in Cleveland having a meeting with Lerner. Apparently he was met with him yesterday as well. He brought his agent along!!!!Rumor is that he is meeting with them about being the “czar”/GM!!!!! Hopefully we will hear something in the next day or two. This could be a HUGE step in the right direction toward turning this team around!

]]> By: gobucks1 http://dawgpounddaily.com/2009/12/14/some-thoughts-on-the-browns-13-6-win-over-the-steelers/comment-page-1/#comment-1220 gobucks1 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:00:52 +0000 http://dawgpounddaily.com/?p=1299#comment-1220 Eric Dudak thank you for correcting me. I am man enough to admit when I'm wrong. However if you are willing to let those 2 extra wins give Mangini another season or two then so be it, I feel that it will just set us back that much farther. Those 2 wins don't wipe out the horrible decisions to bring Daboll in offensive coordinator, or keeping the fans in the dark about everything that is going on with the team. As for the players not quitting...Of course they haven't. They have heard all the talk that there will be a new coach or GM or "czar". They want to make sure they have jobs next year. If you would have looked at the sidelines during a game halfway through the season you would have seen a bunch of disinterested(I don't even know if that is a word) unmotivated players. There has been several posts in the past on this website supporting this information. If Mangini did anything that showed that he really cared about this team or his job I would say keep him, but he hasn't since the day he took the job. Like I said before If we can get someone in here that will work with Mangini and knows what they are doing then that's great, but in the end it will be the GM or "czar" who has to make that decision. I just want to see this team win, no matter who the coach is. Eric Dudak thank you for correcting me. I am man enough to admit when I’m wrong. However if you are willing to let those 2 extra wins give Mangini another season or two then so be it, I feel that it will just set us back that much farther. Those 2 wins don’t wipe out the horrible decisions to bring Daboll in offensive coordinator, or keeping the fans in the dark about everything that is going on with the team.

As for the players not quitting…Of course they haven’t. They have heard all the talk that there will be a new coach or GM or “czar”. They want to make sure they have jobs next year. If you would have looked at the sidelines during a game halfway through the season you would have seen a bunch of disinterested(I don’t even know if that is a word) unmotivated players. There has been several posts in the past on this website supporting this information.
If Mangini did anything that showed that he really cared about this team or his job I would say keep him, but he hasn’t since the day he took the job.

Like I said before If we can get someone in here that will work with Mangini and knows what they are doing then that’s great, but in the end it will be the GM or “czar” who has to make that decision. I just want to see this team win, no matter who the coach is.

]]> By: Eric Dudak http://dawgpounddaily.com/2009/12/14/some-thoughts-on-the-browns-13-6-win-over-the-steelers/comment-page-1/#comment-1216 Eric Dudak Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:18:41 +0000 http://dawgpounddaily.com/?p=1299#comment-1216 Dude, get your facts right first of all. Mangini last 3 years in NY were, 9-7, 4-12, 10-6. That is two out of three seasons as a winning coach and he would have done better last year if Favre had not destroyed his throwing arm. Also, making a switch now just because there are many "name" head coaching candidates out there is the absolute wrong reason to make a switch. You only switch if you believe that Mangini can't get it done and his history suggests that he can. He inherited a bad team and sacrificed much of the talent that was here to accumulate draft picks to build for the future. They were not going anywhere with what they had and a change was needed. You can't commit to that level of overhaul and then pull the carpet out from under him right after he got started. Probably the biggest reason to bring him back is the fight that the team is showing even in this "lost" season. Who honetly believed that we would actually beat the Steelers Thursday night? Sure I had hope but no real expectation that they would win. However, these guys are playing hard and playing to win. There is no quit in them. Will they win again this year? I hope so but don't know that they will. In Mangini's own words, this is a process, and starting over would stop the process before it has the opportunity to realize its potential. 2008 9 7 2007 4 12 2006 10 6 Dude, get your facts right first of all. Mangini last 3 years in NY were, 9-7, 4-12, 10-6. That is two out of three seasons as a winning coach and he would have done better last year if Favre had not destroyed his throwing arm. Also, making a switch now just because there are many “name” head coaching candidates out there is the absolute wrong reason to make a switch. You only switch if you believe that Mangini can’t get it done and his history suggests that he can. He inherited a bad team and sacrificed much of the talent that was here to accumulate draft picks to build for the future. They were not going anywhere with what they had and a change was needed. You can’t commit to that level of overhaul and then pull the carpet out from under him right after he got started.

Probably the biggest reason to bring him back is the fight that the team is showing even in this “lost” season. Who honetly believed that we would actually beat the Steelers Thursday night? Sure I had hope but no real expectation that they would win. However, these guys are playing hard and playing to win. There is no quit in them. Will they win again this year? I hope so but don’t know that they will. In Mangini’s own words, this is a process, and starting over would stop the process before it has the opportunity to realize its potential.

2008 9 7
2007 4 12
2006 10 6

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