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Browns training camp Day 3: Billy Winn injured

By Thomas Moore

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Oct 5, 2014; Nashville, TN, USA; Cleveland Browns head coach Mike Pettine greets Cleveland Browns defensive end Billy Winn (90) after taking the lead against the Tennessee Titans late in the second half at LP Field. Cleveland won 29-28. Mandatory Credit: Jim Brown-USA TODAY Sports

The Cleveland Browns returned to the practice field in Berea on Saturday for the first practice in pads.

Unfortunately, the day also featured the first injury of the summer.

Fourth-year defensive lineman Billy Winn was taken off the field on a cart after suffering an injury to his right knee, according to multiple media reports. It is a disappointing start for the 6-foot-4, 300-pound Winn, who was going to be in a major training camp battle for a roster spot along the Browns’ crowded defensive line.

Related: Billy Winn functional workout

It is also a reminder that you can never have to much depth in the NFL.

“We won’t know until this afternoon,” head coach Mike Pettine said of Winn’s injury. “I believe it is a knee. With that, obviously, whatever (head athletic trainer) Joe (Sheehan) is going to have done, whether it is MRI or X-rays, we will know a lot more this afternoon. I don’t want to sit here and talk about potentially losing him. We’ll see how it is.”

For what it is worth, Winn Tweeted out the following this afternoon:

In addition to Winn, second-year running back Terrance West hurt his calf and rookie running back Duke Johnson tweaked his hamstring, but neither injury is considered to be serious.

“I’ll be all right,” Johnson told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “I’ve experienced much worse. I just felt something in my hamstring, stopped for precautionary reasons. We’re going to take a look at it today.”

“I’m good,” West told NEOMG. “About to get it checked on now. I’ll be back tomorrow. I’ll be back.”

In other news from Day 3 of camp (all quotes courtesy of clevelandbrowns.com):

Jimmy Haslam on his level of patience:

"“We’re not going to blow things up. I think we’re on the right track so we’re not going to blow things up. I understand why people might ask that after a couple of bumps in the first couple of years, but we are not going to do that. I think we’re putting a good foundation in place. The first year we were here, the draft was not what we wanted. I think the second year was better, and a lot depends on how the two first rounder’s do, right? If they turn out to be really good players, then we had a tremendous draft last year or two years ago. If one of them makes it, we had a good draft; if neither of them make it; it’s ok or just so-so. I think this past year we had a really good draft. We added 12 players, two of them might be redshirts, and we have 11 picks this coming year. If you have that many picks and you pick good talent and can coach them, over a period of time we’re going to be successful.”"

Haslam on reports of a “rift” in the front office:

"“As you know, I struggle with those comments because they’re totally inaccurate and irresponsible. I don’t think they were worth commenting on then and I don’t think they are now. People who pride themselves on getting it right and holding us accountable, we accept that responsibility. At the same time, they need to hold themselves accountable and make sure what they report is accurate. Some of the comments about people in this building not getting along are just totally inaccurate.”"

Haslam on the quarterback situation:

"“I think in Josh (McCown) you have a guy who’s played in the league and who is experienced. We are clearly putting together a team that is not totally reliant on great play out of the quarterback. We think we are going to be very competitive this year. Despite what everybody reads and says, we haven’t given up on Johnny (Manziel). We think he has potential to be a good football player. Having the potential to do it and doing it are two different things. I think we have said numerous times that you are not going to win consistently in this league without a good quarterback. We are trying to make that happen.”"

Pettine on the fullback position:

"“I think everybody is looking for a different style of fullback. (Former Browns and Falcons offensive coordinator) Kyle (Shanahan) was looking more for the traditional type that we had in (former Browns FBs Ray) Agnew and Kiero (Small). When you look back at Oakland and what Flip (offensive coordinator John DeFilippo) has been used to and other places having that flexibility, the (Raiders FB) Marcel Reece type, I know that comparison has been made. It is just nice to have that guy, too, who can line up in different places because that helps the offense gather information. I have talked about that before. When you line up guys in unconventional spots, it forces the defense to tip their hand sometimes. That’s a big part of what we are about is having that information pre-snap.”"

Pettine on rookie fullback Malcolm Johnson:

"“He does have that unique skillset. We always talk about having hybrid-type players at certain positions, whether it is on defense or offense. He is a guy that can do a lot of things, and we are hopeful that he can do a lot of things well. He was a capable blocker in college so there is no reason to think he won’t be in the NFL. He is a guy that can mismatch a linebacker or cause some problems for a defense based on the variety of places we can line him up.”"

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Andrew Hawkins on the wide receivers:

"“We have yet to figure it out. I know we have a lot of depth. I know we have a lot of experience, which coming into last year we couldn’t say because Taylor Gabriel, nobody knew he was such an incredible receiver, which he is. Travis Benjamin showed a lot last year. I think there were a lot of question marks around me. Miles Austin came in last year, coming off an injury, and he played well. I think this year we have guys like Hartline and Bowe who are proven. Then, you have Taylor Gabriel with another year, Travis Benjamin and myself. I think the depth as far as experience is a lot higher than last year. With that comes high expectations.”"

Josh McCown on the offense’s progress:

"“My first reaction is that’s our defense. It’s a good defense. To me, the mark of a well-rounded team is that there will be some give and take. We went out there and had a really good day yesterday, everybody threw the ball well. Today there were some really good things, but you’re right, it was not as clean as it was yesterday. Joe (Haden) made two or three plays on the ball today that guys didn’t make yesterday. That’s what I mean. There’s give and take. If we can continue that, I believe that’s what’s going to make us a good football team. At the end of the day, that’s what you want to see. If you’re an offense, you don’t necessarily want to go out and beat the defense very single day. Then we’re in for a long year. If we can have some back and forth, then that’s a good thing. Conversely for them, they don’t just come out and beat us. I think parts of that yesterday were encouraging for them because they like to see us make plays, too. It’s fun for all of us. We realize what we’re putting together. It’s good back and forth.”"

The Browns will be back on the practice field Sunday at 9:30 a.m.

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